RIA Zone - Comments for "Penetration in the AIR"

I'm really curious how this

gbevin — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:01:33 -0500

I'm really curious how this will compete with Java SE 6 Update N in time. I still would be much happier to continue to develop in Java and get people to install the latest versions automatically and effortlessly. Adobe (Macromedia) does have a much better track record regarding getting regular users to download their technology. Sun can learn a lot in that department. It's really in the very small details.

As you cite, using AIR for

rv49649 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:26:58 -0500

As you cite, using AIR for corporate users is no problem and AIR will cement it's use there because deployment-wise it's a superior way to build desktop apps. For some applications it's desirable to exceed what's possible in the browser sandbox with Flex web apps.

As to the Internet audience, I'm thinking the way to go there is build hybrid RIA web apps. By that I mean a Flex RIA web app that is entirely functional and useful to users when run in the browser Flash plugin, but when it is run in AIR desktop mode, the same application becomes bestowed with new and enticing functionality.

IOW, use a Flex RIA web app to lure users and while they're spending time using the web app, and you build trust with them as a responsible software company, make sure they'll find out about how the app will take on exciting turbo charged capabilities if they upgrade it to the AIR version.

When you design your new Flex app, think about how to make it a hybrid from the ground up.

--RogerV

"Let me get right to it by lobbing some grenades: I recognize two arch evils in the software universe – synchronous RPC and remoted interfaces of distributed objects."

A Linux client would be nice

thecrumb — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:18:56 -0500

A Linux client would be nice :)

Its not all versions - its

mikepotter — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:55:09 -0500

Its not all versions - its version 9 of the Flash Player.

http://www.onflex.org/ted/2007/11/32-billion-flash-player-9x-installs-on.php

Mike

sarbogast wrote:All

rick — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:13:00 -0500

sarbogast wrote:

All versions included, that's not that impressive.

You're setting a pretty high standard if 3.5B downloads isn't impressive, but I think I like it :)

I wish I had the problem of having 3.5B pennies, even old ones!

All versions included,

sarbogast — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:00:03 -0500

All versions included, that's not that impressive.

At the Flex Pre-release

rick — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:22:04 -0500

At the Flex Pre-release Tour we heard that there are over 100 AIR apps in the works from super-major companies and organizations. If I understood correctly, then these apps will create pull-through demand in large numbers for the AIR runtime. Also, since the AIR runtime supposedly installs on demand, and is only needed once, a user who downloads it for any of these apps will then have it for ALL future AIR apps.

Smart, eh? But I guess that's to be expected from Adobe. After all, the Flash runtime is apparently the most downloaded software in history. Ben Forta said that (as of 12/32/07) Adobe had seen over 3.5 BILLION downloads of Flash. WOW!